..续本文上一页 function of our mind. If one particular function of mind works, that is science or ethics or aesthetics. If three functions work together that is holy [

　　] function of our mind. That is, you know, your interpretation of human culture, and there is no other function of our mind.

　　But for Buddhism that is not [laughs]—may not—for Buddhism that is not enough. And you realize too—Western philosophers realize that that is not enough. So nowadays you do not apply this three ways of classification of our mind because, actually, to classify our function of mind makes everything clear, but it doesn”t work so well, you know. If you study—even though you study ethics only, you cannot—you will not be helped by ethics. That is a kind of study, you know. You can write something but [laughs]—something interesting, but actually it is just to read, not to help you yourself actually. But that will just—you will be interested in it, that”s all. And after you know that, it will—that”s all, you know. You may ask, “And what

　　” [Laughs.] If philosopher say something you may say: “And what

　　” [Laughs.] “And what it is for

　　 I understand what you said, but what it is for

　　 And what

　　” This kind of, you know, civilization is not so good, you know. It will not help you. Sometime it—you will be bound by the civilization, and more and more you will be mechanized. And you form some pattern of life, some special pattern of life. That is, I think, Western civilization.

　　So that is why, you know, Buddhist—for Buddhist that is very—your study helps a lot because your civilization will—how your civilization helps Buddhism is—what we want to say is: “All the mental function,” you know, “so-called-it mental function, whatever it is, is not, you know, true religious function of—function. That is function of small mind. That is not function of big mind.”

　　So if you say, “I attained enlightenment. I know what is Buddhism,” then we will, you know, see your culture, your—we will open your books, you know: “Oh, this is [laughs] your enlightenment.” Psychologist say so-and-so, and, “This is exactly what you meant. Do you agree with it

　　” [Laughs, laughter.] If you say, “This is it,” then I will say that is not good [laughs]—even though I don”t know what is written on the book. I can just ask you, “Is it—is this what you meant

　　” And if you say, “This is it,” I will say, “No!” [Laughs, laughter.] It is quite simple. It makes, you know—it helps us very much in this way. Then, you know, if I say, “That is not [

　　],” then I can tell what it is, you know—what we mean by religious function.

　　I don”t say religious function of my mind [laughs]. What is religious function

　　 So religious activity is right word. Religious function of mind is not right word. What is religious activity

　　 Religious activity is self-use [

　　] of big activity. Big activity—self-use of big mind is religious function. Self is not my mind or not even mind. Self-use of big—one activity. Everything works, you know, as one—all activity including the sun and the moon and ourselves, mind and body and everything. That is what we mean by religious function. If so, you cannot figure out by your small mind.

　　So if science and philosophers work together in big scale, that is true, you know. That is true study. If they work together, with mutual understanding—when they want to work together, there should be some mutual understanding under some system. At least, each scientist and philosopher should know the limit of their work: “This is your study and this is my study.” This kind of, you know, preparation is necessary, and Dōgen was very much—very, very strict with this idea.

　　Student D: You once said that to climb the mountain you have to come back down, and if you become enlig…

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