..續本文上一頁htened you won”t need enlightenment. Would you say more about that

　　Suzuki-rōshi: If you—oh I see. What was your question

　　 No—no, your question [Student A].

　　Student A: My question was about the—

　　Suzuki-rōshi: Oh, cosmic mudrā. Cosmic mudrā, you know, and your question [are] related. Cosmic mudrā is—this is—to sit is to participate. This is not right word, but to—to participate—self-use of big existence—one whole existence including everything. So this is, you know, one sole existence, the symbol of one big existence including everything. So it is symbol of our practice.

　　When we, you know, practice our practice beyond our understanding, when we just participate in big activity, this is big activity—we are participating [in] the big activity. And to come—to come up is, you know—you come up all the way to the summit by studying many things. Scientific study and various study you will do. Not—you are not scientist or philosopher, but your—all of your life will be classified or will be interpreted in three ways, you know. And you are making effort to know what is science, what is—not “what is science,” but you are trying to improve yourself in various way, mostly maybe emotional way. But anyway you are trying to improve yourself in various way. And more and more you will—not “tired out,” but you will know that you cannot—

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　　—what are you actually—for what you are actually working for. Or what is your basic intention to do something—to do, to live, or to do something. Then, sooner or later, you will reach the same point, which is inmost request or enlightenment or whatever you say [is] buddha-nature. Then all what you do—you will find out all what you do is based on—has been based on your inmost request. Before you didn”t know that. You are just wandering about. But after that, you will know the oneness of wandering about and enlightened life. Before you realize your inmost nature, you know, that is—for you, that is wandering about. But for Buddha it is not so. But for you it is wandering about. Once you know what it is—what it was for, you will find out the meaning of what you have been doing. This is to go up and to come down. This is big scale of understanding [laughs]—understanding of big, big scale. It does not mean to be a philosopher or to be a, you know, Zen master. It is possible for everyone.

　　Student E: Is it possible for everyone [2-4 words] previous lecture [4-8 words] too late

　　Suzuki-rōshi: Hmm

　　 Too late

　　Student E: Yes, for some people it”s too late in this life.

　　Suzuki-rōshi: [Laughs.] I mean too late—I mean when you are too old to—not too late, but you will regret, “Why didn”t I realize this before

　　” It is not too late, but when you are, so I do [do I

　　]—when you lose your present moment—I should say if you don”t work hard, it will be too late. You must not be always too late [laughs, laughter] or too fast. Truth is here, you know, right here. You should not be too late or too fast. Right here. It is written on your back [laughing, laughter]. All the scriptures is written on your back and front. If you do not realize it, you should write. Do you know Lafcadio Hearn

　　[2]

　　Student: Mm-hmm.

　　Suzuki-rōshi: Lafcadio Hearn—the—I don”t know what nationality he—he—

　　Several students: Lafcadio Hearn. [A few inaudible comments.]

　　Student: Was he an American writer

　　Suzuki-rōshi: Hmm

　　 Is he American—an American

　　Student: No, I don”t believe so.

　　Students: [Mostly inaudible comments. Last one repeats the name of Lafcadio Hearn.]

　　Suzuki-rōshi: He is very familiar to Japanese people. He lived in my home town, and—Yaizu[3] and Matsue[4]—he thought Matsue or Yaizu is his native town. He wrote many books about Japan and many interesti…

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